Haemochromotosis (sx: swelling of the hands)

Keith,My belief is that if something has come up, been discovered or created by the body, the body can bring itself back to homeostasis (or at least close to it) with orthomolecular medicine. I will give you my thoughts, both east and west: 

  1. With a client like this, I would run the Comprehensive Organix Profile from Metametrix in order to see where the kinks, bottlenecks, and defiency’s are within his metabolic pathways. I have mentioned it before, as I do it with clients. You can learn more about it by going to www.metametrix.com or give me a call.
  2. I would focus 100% of your education on the foundation NLC principles that you know of to assist with detoxification, normalization of physiology and so forth.




  1. In TCM, there is what is called visible and invisible phlegm. The main cause of Phlegm is Spleen deficiency. If the Spleen fails to transform and transport Body Fluids, these will accumulate and change into Phlegm. The Lungs and Kidneys are also involved in the formation of Phlegm. If the Lungs fail to disperse and lower fluids and if the Kidneys fail to transform and excrete fluids, these may accumulate into Phlegm. However, the Spleen is always the primary factor in the formation of Phlegm. The spleen is like the boiling pot of soup that needs to be stirred and moved by the lungs and kidneys in order for it not to turn into phlegm. There are about 16 different kind of phlegm patterned pathologies in TCM. So my first rec would be to refer him to a TCM practitioner. Below are a list I cut and pasted from a website on the web (ref. Rebecca Avern, L.Ac):


Severe dizziness, nausea, vomiting, numbness of the limbs, coughing of phlegm, a feeling of oppression of the chest, blurred vision, a rattling sound in the throat, slurred speech, Swollen tongue with sticky coating, Wiry-Slippery pulse. In case of Wind-Stroke: aphasia, deviation of eyes and mouth, hemiplegia, Swollen-Deviated tongue.
Three Treasures remedies: Clear Yang, Peaceful Sunset (in the case of Wind-Stroke)

Cough with expectoration of profuse yellow sputum which may be blood-tinged, a feeling of oppression of the chest, dark eye sockets, red cheek bones, red face, thirst, oily skin, breathlessness, chest pain, insomnia, dark urine, feeling of heat, mental restlessness, Red-Swollen tongue with sticky-yellow coating, Rapid-Slippery pulse.
Three Treasures remedies: Ringing Metal, Clear the Soul

Cough with expectoration of white-watery sputum, feeling cold, cold hands and feet, nausea, vomiting, a feeling of oppression of the chest and epigastrium, dull-white complexion, pale urine, Pale-Swollen tongue with wet-white coating, Slippery-Slow pulse.
Three Treasures remedies: Limpid Sea

Cough with easy expectoration of profuse, sticky-white sputum, a feeling of oppression of the chest and epigastrium, breathlessness, rattling sound in the throat, dark eye sockets, sallow-greyish complexion, a feeling of heaviness, tendency to obesity, swollen hands and feet, poor appetite, nausea, dizziness, blurred vision, oily skin, Swollen tongue with sticky coating, Slippery pulse.
Three Treasures remedies: Limpid Sea

Sputum in the chest that is difficult to expectorate, bouts of dry cough followed by expectoration of sticky sputum, breathlessness, dull-white complexion, dark eye sockets, dry throat, dry nose and lips, dry mouth but no desire to drink, Swollen tongue with sticky-dry coating, Slippery pulse.
Three Treasures remedy: Limpid Sea and Jade Spring

A feeling of lump in the throat, difficulty in swallowing, a feeling of oppression of the chest and diaphragm, mental depression, irritability, nausea, sighing, Wiry pulse.
Three Treasures remedy: Open the Heart

Cough with abundant sputum, nausea, vomiting, sour regurgitation, belching, a feeling of fullness in the epigastrium, a feeling of oppression of the chest and epigastrium, epigastric pain after eating that is better after bowel movement, Swollen tongue with thick-sticky tongue coating, Slippery pulse.

Phlegm with Blood Stasis
A feeling of oppression of the chest, numbness and tingling of the limbs, pain in the joints, stiffness and rigidity of joints, abdominal masses, fibroids, goitre, mental restlessness, insomnia, dark eye sockets, Purple-Swollen tongue with sticky coating, Slippery-Wiry or Slippery-Firm pulse.
Three Treasures remedies: Peaceful Sunset or Clear the Soul with Red Stirring

Phlegm-Fluids in Stomach and Intestines (Tan Yin):
abdominal fullness and distension, nausea, vomiting of watery fluids, splashing sound in the stomach, dry mouth without desire to drink, palpitations, shortness of breath, dizziness, a feeling of oppression of the chest, loose stools, loss of weight, Swollen tongue with sticky coating, Deep-Wiry or Deep-Slippery pulse.
Phlegm-Fluids in the hypochondrium (Xuan Yin): hypochondrial pain which is worse on coughing and breathing, a feeling of distension and pulling of the hypochondrium, shortness of breath, Swollen tongue with sticky coating, Deep-Slippery-Wiry pulse.
Phlegm-Fluids in the limbs (Yi Yin): a feeling of heaviness of the body, pain in the muscles, absence of sweating, no desire to drink, cough with profuse watery sputum, swelling of the limbs, lethargy, breathlessness, Swollen tongue with sticky coating, Wiry-Slippery or Tight-Slippery pulse.
Phlegm-Fluids above the diaphragm (Zhi Yin): cough with white-watery sputum, breathlessness, swelling of limbs, dizziness, inability to lie down, swollen face, feeling cold, Swollen tongue with white-sticky coating, Slippery pulse.

Phlegm Under the Skin
Lumps or nodules under the skin, nerve-ganglia swellings, swelling of lymph-nodes, swelling of the thyroid, lipoma.

Phlegm in the Channels
Numbness and tingling in the limbs.

Phlegm Misting the Heart
Inappropriate laughter or crying, dull thinking, hypomania, manic behaviour, manic depression, psychosis.
Three Treasures remedies: Clear the Soul

Phlegm in the Joints
Swelling and deformities of joints seen in Chronic Painful Obstruction Syndrome (often seen in rheumatoid arthritis).
Three Treasures remedies: Benefit the Sinews

Phlegm in the Gall Bladder
Gall-Bladder stones.

Phlegm in the Kidneys
Kidney stones.

Pain in the heart region, a feeling of oppression in the chest, anxiety, mental restlessness following a shock, Moving pulse. This pattern occurs when a severe shock displaces the Spirit from the Heart and its place is taken
by Phlegm.
Three Treasures remedy: Clear the Soul

Nausea, vomiting, a feeling of fullness of the epigastrium, foul breath, a rattling sound in the throat, purple nose, purple complexion, a feeling of oppression of the chest, Reddish-Purple and Swollen tongue with a sticky-yellow coating, Slippery pulse. This pattern is seen in older people with Phlegm deriving from excessive alcohol consumption.
Three Treasures remedy: Peaceful Sunset

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I just stumbled across this and I'll be telling my doctor about this next week to see if anything is available. I'm 20 now but have had 'neuralgia' in all toes on both feet since I was 11. I was prescribed Co-Codamol 30/500mg effervescent tablets which I've been using since 1997. In 2000 I started getting headaches so I used the painkillers for that too. I'm now to the point where I get headaches every two hours so I just keep taking the Co-codamol with no regard to the dosage instructions, simply because I have to. My doctor thinks I'm now codeine dependent and next week we're going to start slowly reducing the dose. Sometimes the pain in my toes gets so much I can't do anything but lie there in agony. I can honestly and truthfully say that there are about four times when I've just wished for everything to end - I'd have done anything literally to be done with the pain and even life itself just for a moment of relief. Luckily things only rarely get that bad, and usually the pain is not bad enough to warrant lying in bed, but even with that I can fully sympathise with anyone in that condition. One thing that's got me down a bit is that I can't seem to find any stories about others with feet neuralgia, only mouth of facial neuralgia, which although just as painful is not the same. So I often feel that I'm theonly one with this affliction. I hate having to remember to take water, a glass and tablets with me everywhere. I hate not being able to go for a morning run because I know my toes will scream after just a few hundred metres. And because I'm partially sighted as well, I sometimes feel life has just got it in for me. But then I feel guilty about feeling that way knowing I've probably got it better than a lot of other people. I find writing songs is a great way of expressing myself - I'd never be able to talk about how I'm feeling to someone else, I'd just feel too ashamed and embarassed. But there's something about writing lyrics that just seems to 'numb' the pain. At the risk of getting this barred from here, I'd like to share one that I wrote one night, I can vividly remember the situation. It was 3am, I was in agony and it was one of the four times I've wished for life to end. Mum's room is right next door, but no matter how loud I called she didn't hear me. and the door was closed, yet I just couldn't get up and walk to ten or so feet to open it so that she could. Somehow I got my laptop off the side cabinet and wrote this: www.patwanet.co.uk/lyrics/alone.txt I hope it can express what people feel yet show that there is hope and light at the end of the tunnel. If you want to read my other songs (all of which I wrote at times when I felt my lowest) then just take the alone.txt off the end (i.e www.patwanet.co.uk/lyrics). I'd love to hear your comments, and I do hope you'll let people read the song which I think is truly thought-inspiring. I'd welcome your opinions, you can contact me through the form on the patwanet.co.uk site, contact link half-way down the page. Thanks for taking the time to read. H.